My interview with Gus Zernial

For my web site: www.thisgreatgame.com, and also as a member of the Oral History Committee for the Society for American Baseball Research (SABR) at: www.sabr.org, I have interviewed over 40 retired baseball players. Here's a very interesting interview I did a while back with Gus Zernial, who is one of the greatest baseball players nobody's ever heard of:

GUS ZERNIAL

Gus Zernial’s greatest achievement in major league baseball was probably when he led the American League in home runs in 1951. He was a power-hitting outfielder who never played for a first division team, but he hit 237 career homers and batted .265. His nickname was Ozark Ike, based on a popular comic strip at the time. From 1951 to 1957, only Mickey Mantle hit more round trippers in the AL. In 1951, Zernial hit 33 home runs, and in 1953, he had his best power year with 42. He played for the A’s in Philadelphia and Kansas City; then with the White Sox and Detroit. Although he was a great hitter, his fielding was far from spectacular. Twice during his career he broke his collarbone chasing down fly balls.

Norma Jean and Ozark Ike: While with the White Sox in 1949, a young starlet by the name of Marilyn Monroe came to the ballpark to do a pictorial for a National Enquire-type magazine. Gus remembered that she was “such a nice girl.” “She asked a bunch of questions about baseball…she was really interested in the game.” Zernial said that he was perplexed later when they made her look less than wholesome in many of her films. When DiMaggio started dating Monroe years later, they asked Joltin’ Joe about Marilyn and Gus, and the Yankee Clipper made a disparaging remark about Zernial, something to the effect that “Marilyn would never date a bush leaguer like Zernial”. For some reason known to only Joe, DiMag held a grudge against Zernial until the day he died.

Hit 33 HR’s in 1951, but didn’t even get in the all-star game that year:
“There was a guy around at that time named Ted Williams, and although I always finished second, he pretty much beat me out in the all-star voting every time. Casey Stengel was the manager of the all-stars every year, because the Yankees won the American League every year, but he never chose me. Casey never selected me for the all-star team, and I was always up in the voting. But, he had people he wanted to put in there, and I can understand that. Casey had his own players that he liked to select. For instance, Jackie Jensen was someone he liked to pick, even though he didn’t do real well in the voting that year. And he chose Jackie. And in 1953, when Ted had to go back in the service for awhile, of course, I won the voting that year. I started the all-star game, and Casey was still there. I think he would have prevented me from playing in the all-star game that year if he could have. He was so anxious to get Minnie Minoso in there that he barely let me get two at bats. But, I singled in that game – it was the first base hit of the game. But, that’s Casey. Managers will always have their favorites and they still do.”

Striking out a lot: “Today they strike out 110 times only halfway through the season. I averaged about 70 strikeouts a year. In 1951, we didn’t have a good team. We had good players, but we didn’t have a good ball club. And I think in some of those games I was just trying to hit a home run late in the game when we were trailing. That’s no excuse for the strikeouts, but we’d be behind and I’d go up and try to hit it out, you know?”

Association with Appling: “Luke Appling took me by the hand, showed me around the league, took me to into a few bars, showed me the ropes, so to speak. No, he was a great, great guy. Luke and I become good friends, he did it all with me. I’m really happy to say I played with some really great players. Played with Appling, Kaline – guys like that.
I had some HOF years, but I certainly didn’t have a HOF career. In 1954 when I got hurt, that was the end for me. Hurt my shoulder in 1954.”

Booed by the Philadelphia A’s fans when he hurt his shoulder:
“Yeah – Philadelphia, they’ll boo ya. There are certainly some boo birds there.
Announcer told fans I’d broken my shoulder. Took me down this tunnel and I could hear them booing me all the way down to the clubhouse.”

Racism in the game: “I think when Jackie Robinson first came up, I think some of the players resented it, and some didn’t. But, I never had any trouble with it, at all. Told my brothers, “Hey, the black players are just the same as us.” They resented that situation. I said, “Hey, that’s part of the game.”

All the stadiums are history now: “Every home ball park I played in is now gone. There’s nothing left. Chicago. Chicago’s stadium is gone. Same with Philadelphia, Detroit and Kansas City. All those stadiums are gone. Tiger Stadium is actually still there, but they don’t play there anymore. Detroit used to have a nice downtown, but it’s not as nice now.”

He's a Brainiac: Perfect Scores on the SAT & ACT!

I only took the SAT and I remember I thought I was doing well with an 1100. This kid is a real rarity, because most students are really good at either math or reading, not both. I wonder now that he’s a celebrity – are the bullies at school still picking on him or do they let him slide? If he goes to a school like MIT, he can be the bully and beat the crap out of the other smart kids! The nerd babes are going to be all over this stud! He’ll probably make the centerfold of Super Brainiac Magazine. He should really piss his parents off and tell them he wants to go to a local junior college so that he can continue to hang out with his chess buddies who only got 1,300’s!

This was on MSN.com yesterday:

WICHITA, Kan. (Aug. 18) - A teenager has achieved a rare feat: perfect scores on both the American College Testing exam and the SAT.
Jakub Voboril, 17, a senior at Bishop Carroll High School, learned last month that he had scored a 36 on his ACT, which he took in June. His perfect score, one of only two in Kansas on the June test, came after he scored 32 and 34 on his first two tries.
"Part of me said, 'That's good enough. You can stop there,"' he said. "But I decided to take it one more time to see what happened."
He took the SAT the same week. Those results - a perfect 2400 - came in shortly after he got his ACT scores.
Voboril comes from good genes: his two older sisters were high school valedictorians. He hasn't settled on a college or major, but has considered math, philosophy and law, possibly at the University of Notre Dame or Princeton.
He said he didn't have an answer for how he scored so well.
"It's weird, because before I took it, I checked out a couple books from the library. I expected there to be this big secret that all the smart all had to read, but there wasn’t.
Obviously, you have to pay attention in classes, take classes that are going to teach you what you need to know - that sort of thing."
No statistics are available on how many students have aced both tests, but it's a safe bet Voboril doesn't have a lot of company.
"Suffice it to say, it's a very, very small number," said Brian O'Reilly, a spokesman for the College Board, which administers the SAT.

Is Owen Wilson a Marriage Crasher?

Please Note: You'll start to see a lot of celebrity-bashing articles on this blog from time to time, because I'm writing for a Web site that has hired me to do them.

I get so tired of hearing about stars and starlets hooking up on movie sets. If I was married to a hot-looking actress, there is absolutely no way I would let my wife alone for a second with some of the lecherous lead actors who have no respect for marriage and will steal your wife in the blink of an eye. Julia Roberts made a career of it; Meg Ryan pretty much ruined her career with all the bad publicity she got for hooking up with Russell Crowe on the set of some movie no one even remembers anymore. And now Owen Wilson has swept Kate Hudson off her feet. Wilson & Hudson (sounds like a law firm) have been working together on the set of the new movie, “Me and Dupree,” with Matt Dillon, and I guess when they went off to do publicity for the film, Owen and Kate started sharing hotel rooms together and obviously the sparks started to fly. As soon as Hudson got home she informed her hubby of 5.5 years, Black Crowes lead singer Chris Robinson, that it was over. If I were Robinson, I would be livid and looking for Wilson with a Louisville Slugger in hand. I remember hearing Hudson and Robinson on some radio show a few months back talking about how they’re able to make their marriage work with commitment and trust. Ha! What a crock! Hudson better watch herself. Meg Ryan’s career evaporated when fans stopped seeing her as “America’s Cutey/Girl Next Door” and started looking at her as “Tawdry Home wrecker.” We’ll have to see how this plays out, but from what I’ve heard and read so far, all I can say is shame on you, Owen. Aren’t there enough single women out there for you to prey on?

Big Tough Country Singer Accused of Killing a Tame Bear in a Pen!?! Troy Lee Gentry is Our Human Douche Bag of the Month!

(Suggested photo caption: "Is that 'Lil Cubby I hear groanin'? I thought I killed that bear!")

What IS WRONG with people? Is this guy the biggest wimp you’ve ever heard of or what? Killing a tame bear in a pen? Why would anyone want to do something so cruel? I’m totally against hunting and always have been, even although I love to fish. I think people who stalk and kill defenseless animals are gutless and stupid. But, at least when they go out into the wild and track down a wild animal, there’s a little bit of sport involved. But, to kill a tame bear in a pen is so inhumane and just generally unfair it sickens me. I’m not a big country music fan, so I have never heard this clown’s music. If I was a real rabble rouser, I’d probably go down to Tower Records and tell people to boycott his CD’s, but I’m way too busy. So, I’m blogging my friends to let them know that this guy is a human douche bag!

Here’s the story as it appeared on AOL yesterday:

DULUTH, Minn. (Aug. 16) - Troy Lee Gentry, of the country singing duo Montgomery Gentry, has been accused of killing a tame black bear that federal officials say he tagged as killed in the wild.
Gentry, 39, of Franklin, Tenn., and Lee Marvin Greenly, 46, of Sandstone, appeared Tuesday before U.S. Magistrate Judge Raymond Erickson in connection with a sealed indictment returned by a federal grand jury in Minneapolis. Authorities allege that Gentry purchased the bear from Greenly, a wildlife photographer and hunting guide, then killed it with a bow and arrow in an enclosed pen on Greenly's property in October 2004. The government alleges that Gentry and Greenly tagged the bear with a Minnesota hunting license and registered the animal with the state Department of Natural Resources as a wild kill. Gentry allegedly paid about $4,650 for the bear, named Cubby. The bear's death was videotaped, and the tape later edited so Gentry appeared to shoot the animal in a "fair chase" hunting situation, the government alleges. If convicted, both Gentry and Greenly face a maximum penalty of five years in federal prison and a $20,000 fine. Gentry's manager, Johnny Dorris, said Wednesday that Gentry, an outdoorsman and hunter, expects to be exonerated. Gentry "relied on the knowledge and expertise of a local guide to obtain the proper permit," Dorris said in a written statement. "Troy felt what he did was legal and in full compliance of the law and was surprised to hear of the indictment." Greenly did not return a phone message seeking comment. Montgomery Gentry, along with co-singer Eddie Montgomery, are known for hits such as "My Town" and "If You Ever Stop Loving Me."
And his newest hit, “Cubby’s Revenge.”

One thing I should say here is that Gentry is, of course, innocent until proven guilty. At least that’s supposed to be the way our justice system works. (I'm sure if he has enough $$ to get a high-priced lawyer, some judge will have mercy on him and I predict he'll get a suspended sentence and a small fine. If he was black and poor he'd get the full five years, no doubt!)

Bye Bye Bruno Kirby. You Were a Great Character Actor & You Will Be Missed!

Man, I was so, so sorry to read this. Bruno Kirby was one of my favorite character actors ever. I will always remember him as the limo driver in “Spinal Tap” and as the uptight lieutenant in “Good Morning Vietnam.” He also played the young Clemenza in "Godfather II." He always gave a great performance and consistently brought so much to the roles he played. I just saw him recently on one of my favorite TV shows, “Entourage”, and I can’t believe he died so young. Goodbye, Bruno. I’ll miss you just like I’m sure a lot of other people will.

Here’s the wire story/obit on Bruno Kirby:

LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Bruno Kirby, a veteran character actor who costarred in "When Harry Met Sally," "City Slickers" and many other films, has died at age 57, his wife said Tuesday. Kirby died Monday in Los Angeles from complications related to leukemia, according to a statement from his wife, Lynn Sellers. He had recently been diagnosed with the disease. "We are incredibly grateful for the outpouring of support we have received from Bruno's fans and colleagues who have admired and respected his work over the past 30 years," his wife said. "Bruno's spirit will continue to live on not only in his rich body of film and television work but also through the lives of individuals he has touched throughout his life." Kirby was perhaps best known for his roles opposite Billy Crystal in 1989's "When Harry Met Sally" and 1991's "City Slickers." Other film credits included "Good Morning, Vietnam," "The Godfather: Part II" and "Donnie Brasco." More recently, he played Phil Rubenstein on the HBO series "Entourage."

It's a Love Haight Relationship!

Yesterday I met with Jeremy Bates, the owner and editor of the Haight-Ashbury Beat and he gave me my first writing assignment! The Haight Ashbury-Beat is a monthly community newspaper dedicated to news and features about the Haight Street section of SF. This means that I have now received a total of three writing gigs since I started this blog. I am also writing for a new Web site about SF and its many sites and attractions called “City Hike”, and I am in the process of working with Jerry Hart, the brother of Grateful Dead drummer Mickey Hart, on a book called, “Grateful but Not Dead.” This blog has really helped me get my writing seen and if you’re reading this right now, thanks! Everything I write for the Beat will also appear on my blog, so stay tuned. This could get very interesting. For an online version of the Haight-Ashbury Beat, visit: http://www.haightashburybeat.com/.

One of the last street performers in SF is Noah Tyler, aka "Dave"

His name is Noah Tyler, age 55, but everyone calls him Dave. He’s one of the last street musicians still left in San Francisco. I first encountered him when I was walking my dogs down by Fisherman’s Wharf on the weekends. It’s a nice stroll down through Aquatic Park, if you can stay clear of all the clueless tourists on bikes who seem to think people on foot are simply in the way.

So, I go down to where the cable cars turn around, and I started to notice this street musician entertaining the tourists while they waited in line for a cable car to board. I was immediately impressed with Dave (or Noah’s) style of playing. He knows a ton of songs and he’s got a great, really gravelly voice, kind of a mixture between Kris Kristofferson and Bruce Springsteen with possibly a little Bob Dylan thrown in. He also has a really acerbic sense of humor and is not afraid to say things to the tourists that are truthful and somewhat harsh, but he does it in a nice way so that people don’t get pissed off at him. So, after watching and listening to Noah for several weekends, I decided to interview him, and he is a fascinating guy.

Noah has been coming to San Francisco almost every summer since 1967. He arrives in mid-May and leaves around Halloween. That’s his migration pattern. The rest of the year he lives in what he describes as a small hut on the big island of Hawaii. During the winter he lives like a hermit and doesn’t interact with many people, so when he comes to SF that’s his time for socialization. “It’s not healthy to be alone all the time,” Tyler said. “You need to be around people once in awhile or you can go mad.”

Tyler plays at the cable car turnaround every Saturday and Sunday from around 9 am to 1 pm. Many people assume he’s homeless just because they see him playing music on the street, but he’s not. He has an apartment with his 23-year old wife (his second) in North Beach where he stays when he’s in town.

Many people would probably admire the way Tyler lives. He has never had a bank account, he doesn’t own a TV or a cell phone, and he tries to be as unencumbered with material possessions as he can. Tyler estimates that he knows how to play over 2,000 songs, and I believe him. Every time a tourist makes a request for a certain tune, he seems to know it. Tyler hasn’t always just played music on the street. In his 20’s and 30’s, he played for bands like INXS, Midnight Oil, Men at Work and others. He’s written songs for Willie Nelson and Toby Keith.

Every year when Tyler comes back to SF, his first reaction is “What has happened to these people? What has happened to us all?”

“Back in the late 60’s when I started this gig, people would laugh and dance around while I played and have a great time,” Tyler said. “Now they just stare at me while using their cell phones and their iPODs. Many of these folks are on stuff like Xanax and Prozac and totally out of it.”

Tyler said you can immediately tell the difference between tourists from overseas and people who live in the U.S. “The Europeans are always much nicer to me and have a better attitude” he said. “Americans are zombied out in a lot of ways. They are frightened for one thing. They are terrified of just about everything. We are a scared bunch of people in this country and it’s a sad way to be.”

There used to be over 50 street performers and musicians on the streets on SF, Tyler said. But, now there are fewer than a dozen and I asked Noah why. “The whole mentality has changed,” He said. “Kids nowadays with any musical talent just want to sit around in front of their computers and make CD’s. The art of street performing is dying, man!”

Tyler grew up in Hawaii as an orphan who was raised by an island family who adopted him. I asked Tyler if the local police ever hassled him for playing on the street. “No, the cops are cool,” he said. “This area here at Fisherman’s Wharf is federal, state and city property, so the cops really don’t want anything to do with us.”

Tyler wouldn’t tell me how much money he makes playing for the tourists, but he did tell me that he’s gotten a good share of $100 bills from people over the years. I’m not at all surprised. The guy can play. If you ever get a chance between now and Halloween, get down to Fisherman’s Wharf and go to where the cable cars turn around, and catch Noah’s act. It’s very entertaining and so is he.

My Top 5 Favorite Baseball Films

As you may or not know by reading my blog at this point, you probably have figured out that I am a huge baseball fan. I have a Web site called www.thisgreatgame.com with my very talented partner Eric Gouldsberry, and I interview retired baseball players for SABR, the Society of Baseball Research. So, I thought it would be cool to rate my top 5 baseball movies. I am doing a top 5 on everything I find important, and baseball movies surely fit into that category, so here goes:

5.) Bull Durham: (1988) A funny, well-written movie produced by Ron Shelton, the king of sports films, this movie deals with things that have never been addressed before or since about life in the minor leagues. The love triangle between Susan Sarandon (Annie) as the baseball groupie with a soul; Tim Robbins (Nuke LaLoosh) as the clueless pitcher with a good arm and no brain; and Kevin Costner as the career minor league catcher named Crash Davis, is priceless.
4.) Eight Men Out: (1988) John Sayles is a great filmmaker and this movie truly captures the era and the story of the Chicago Black Sox throwing the 1919 World Series. Memorable performances by Jon Cusack as Buck Weaver, Charlie Sheen as Oscar “Hap” Felsch, John Mahoney as Kid Gleason, and David Strathain as Eddie Cicotte make this a special period piece that will always have a place in the history of great baseball movies.
3.) The Natural: (1984) Although this movie is more of a fable than a story with any truth to it, it is fun to watch and even though I always know how it will end, I still love it. People complain that it is too mythological and not realistic enough, but I don’t care. Robert Redford, playing Roy Hobbs, is a character based on real-life ballplayer Ed Waitkus, who was shot in 1949 by an obsessed fan named Ruth Ann Steinhagen. When Hobbs names his favorite bat “Wonderboy”, it’s a takeoff on Shoeless Joe Jackson’s renowned bat, “Caroliney”. Redford is perfect in the role of the washed-up underdog who makes an incredible comeback, and Michael Madsen as the cocky Bartholomew “Bump” Bailey is also great, as are Richard Farnsworth as coach Red Blow, and Wilford Brumley as embattled manager Pop Fisher.
2.) A League of Their Own: (1992) Penny Marshall’s creation about the Women’s All-American Baseball League of the 1940’s is a wonderfully balanced and poignant story about a group of women asked to entertain those at home on the baseball fields of small-town America while the boys are at war. Tom Hanks plays the washed-up drunk manager, Geena Davis is excellent as the best player in the league, and awesome performances by Lori Petty, Madonna, and Rosie O’Donnell make this film a must-see for fans and non-fans alike.
1.) Field of Dreams: (1989) This film has it all – reincarnated ballplayers, a ball field in Iowa that people are mysteriously drawn to; the story of one man’s search for truth and his pursuit of something pure -- is so unique that nothing else can compare to it. Once again, Kevin Costner (Ray Kinsella) is there to tell the story, along with great performances by Ray Liotta as Shoeless Joe Jackson, Burt Lancaster as Midnight Graham, and James Earl Jones as Terrence Mann -- all of whom make this a one-of-a-kind baseball movie. This film coined the phrase, “If you build it they will come,” which has been used and overused to describe so many things non-baseball that it’s become part of our culture.

9th Annual Yuletide Yuckfest Announced Today

My annual comedy fundraiser for Toys for Tots is called the Yuletide Yuckfest and we’re announcing the date and the headlining comedian today. The date of this year’s Yuckfest is Sunday night December 3rd, 7 pm at Rooster T. Feathers comedy nightclub in Sunnyvale. Our headliner is a comic named Clinton Jackson, who is really funny and squeaky clean, which is good for a benefit like this. Admission to the show (which is our 9th annual, by the way), is $15 with an unwrapped toy or $20 without a toy.

As we get closer to the date, I’ll be adding a bunch more comedians to the lineup. As usual, Chubby’s All-Stars, considered the greatest carport band in the bay area, will be opening the show at 7 pm with great music. Here is some press on Clinton Jackson. Stayed tuned for more details on this great event. I hope to see you all at the Ninth Annual Yuletide Yuckfest!!

Born Clinton Page Jackson in Oakland California, Clinton is the youngest of three and the only son. An imaginative child inclined to perform, Clinton stood empty handed at "Show & Tell", told his jokes, and officially claimed his identity as comedian at the age of nine.
Clinton honed his craft in San Francisco's thriving comedy scene. As a stand-up, he has appeared on numerous national stand-up television shows. He recently taped his own half hour comedy special "Comedy Central Presents" which debuted in the spring of 2004. Clinton's CD titled "Clinton Jackson - 'Nuff Said" was released on Uproar Records.
On stage Clinton moves about as if he were in a boxing match delivering material that is not only hilarious to hear but brilliantly visual as well. He's clever and engaging with a unique point of view. He works clean on stage, earning him the respect of his peers and giving him a broad cross over appeal.
Following his acclaimed performance at HBO's prestigious Aspen Comedy Festival, Clinton moved to Los Angeles to pursue his other love - acting. He was then cast as science teacher "Mezz Crosby" appearing for two seasons on the WB's "Nick Freno". Clinton also guest starred in "Cybill" as well as "Dharma & Greg". True to form, Clinton has appeared in several shows on family friendly networks such as Nickelodeon, and most recently, the Disney Channel's "That's So Raven".
Clinton has also been cast in numerous commercial campaigns including Jeep, Circuit City, AC Delco, and Old Navy.
In addition to a career in acting, Clinton's dream is to achieve excellence and permanence in the art of stand-up comedy.
"Clinton Jackson is more a monologist than a joke machine; his good natured presence and knack for spinning a tale draw an audience into his confidence. He has an effortless, easygoing delivery and an actor's gift for mimicry. The man is clean, clever and engaging.”
Michael Snyder
The San Francisco Chronicle
To find out more about Clinton Jackson, visit his web site at: www.clintonjackson.com.

Talking Parrots & Life with Mark Bittner (Part II)

(I recently sat down with Mark Bittner, author and the subject of the award-winning documentary, "The Wild Parrots of Telegraph Hill." Here is a part of that interview:)

ERA: Have you found that people recognize you now since “The Wild Parrots of Telegraph Hill” came out and was such a success?

MB: Oh, yeah, it’s strange. On some days, no one will recognize me. And, then on other days it just happens all day long. For instance, two days ago, it happened several times. At one point we were at a stop sign and somebody ran over to the car and that was kind of funny.

ERA: Is it gratifying, annoying?

MB: It’s neither, really. I mean, in a certain sense it’s gratifying, because you want to touch people, of course you want it to reach out to people. But, you know, it’s small. Fame doesn’t mean anything to me. I’ve always thought that fame was like nonsense. And now I can see it even more so. But, even on the small level on which I encounter it, it IS nonsense. You know, people are nice and it’s never been a problem. I’m not inundated by it, but I can see where if I were, it could get very annoying. Because I’m used to just walking around thinking about stuff that I’m working on, and if people were interrupting me constantly throughout a day, that would just be hell.

ERA: I know that some people who saw the people criticized the couple who owned the property and made you move. Was there any animosity toward them on your part?

MB: No, and that’s been kind of terrible in a way, because when we first showed the film at a test screening, a lot of people acted negatively to them, so we added some extra voice over to make it clear that they were actually being good to me. And the book makes it very clear that I had no animosity toward them. But, if you just see the film and you’re not paying real close attention – I mean, I say in the film that they’ve been real good to me and I meant it, but some people just see it as they made me leave. You know, a film only shows so much, because you only have so much time to tell the story in a movie. The facts of the matter were complicated. The building was falling apart. I was ready to go. I didn’t want to keep doing what I was doing. I had been doing it for six years and I had never intended on being the parrot man my whole life. So, when they said we’re sorry, we have to do something because this building is falling apart, that was true and I was grateful to them, because I had always felt I was on a path of some sort and I wanted something to naturally end it. So, I was grateful to them rather than being upset with them.

ERA: In what other ways has the film changed your life?

MB: Well, in many ways both the book and the film have changed my life. My issue coming into this whole thing was how to make a living. I wasn’t sure what I wanted to do to make a living. I’ve always wanted to devote myself wholeheartedly to something, but I couldn’t find what that was. And, so the parrots opened the door. It wasn’t like tending the parrots was my answer, which is the way some people look at it. It was more like they just opened the door. It gave me a story to tell, for one thing. I’d always liked writing, but for a variety of reasons I had always discounted writing as a way of making a living. But, now I finally had a story to tell, it was a unique story and I thought it should be told. And the book did well so that kind of thing is open to me now. I’ve traveled all over the world giving talks.

ERA: Was there a moment when you remember saying to yourself, “These parrots are going to open this door for me?”

MB: No, not really. It wasn’t like that. It was like when I was doing it I wasn’t sure why I was doing it. That was always a big puzzle to me. I felt at first like I was being diverted. Because I was very conscious of where I was going, always, even though it looks to a lot of people like I was aimless, it was never that. I was very focused, but when I first got involved with the parrots, I thought they were a diversion and a danger, in that sense. But, I couldn’t get away from them and as I got deeper and deeper into it, all of this good stuff started happening to me. So, I finally just gave up. And it turns out that they represented a door opening for me, but it was a gradual realization. I wrote a story about the parrots to a parrot magazine, and that gave me the idea of writing a book. Then, Judy came along wanting to make the film. At first, it was just going to be a hobby film. But, it just kept growing. It was like everything with this. There was never any goal. Things just kept growing. And then we recently got married.

ERA: Yeah, I wanted to ask you about that. Could you see that you were getting attached to her during the filming of the movie?

MB: No, not at all. In the beginning it was really all just work, work-related and being kind of polite around each other, because it was kind of a professional relationship at first. I just felt comfortable around her, even though I didn’t view her romantically at all.
After awhile, we just started spending more and more time together, and it really all just came together when she wanted to film a baby parrot being born and I had always wanted to see that. So, the babies were late that year. They usually came out around the first of September, but that year they were as many as three weeks late. So, we had to go to the same place every morning and hang out under this one nest that we knew about and sit around in her van, waiting for this baby to come out, and day after day they weren’t coming. So, we spent more and more time, just sitting around and talking and getting to know one another. I knew I liked her and I had hoped it was mutual.

(More to come…)